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What does "true" mean? The answer to that would be twofold. What are you trying to do with your speech? There are two things you can do with it. One is you can manipulate reality so that it does what you want it to do. That's the sort of speech people use when they are trying to get what they want. The problem with that is that they can't actually know what they want. They just hypothesize what it is that they want based on some theory and then they try to manipulate the world so that they get that. But it's an unsatisfying venture, and often when they do get it, it's not good anyways, and it involves a kind of falsity of speech. The other way is to try to say what you mean, and think and perceive as clearly as you possibly can, always, and see what happens. The story that underlies Christianity and it is not only Christianity, it's Christianity that I am most familiar with, is that. The rule is: Live in accordance with the truth and see what happens. <ref>[https://youtu.be/07Ys4tQPRis Dr Jordan B Peterson | *full-length* 2014 interview]</ref> | What does "true" mean? The answer to that would be twofold. What are you trying to do with your speech? There are two things you can do with it. One is you can manipulate reality so that it does what you want it to do. That's the sort of speech people use when they are trying to get what they want. The problem with that is that they can't actually know what they want. They just hypothesize what it is that they want based on some theory and then they try to manipulate the world so that they get that. But it's an unsatisfying venture, and often when they do get it, it's not good anyways, and it involves a kind of falsity of speech. The other way is to try to say what you mean, and think and perceive as clearly as you possibly can, always, and see what happens. The story that underlies Christianity and it is not only Christianity, it's Christianity that I am most familiar with, is that. The rule is: Live in accordance with the truth and see what happens. <ref>[https://youtu.be/07Ys4tQPRis Dr Jordan B Peterson | *full-length* 2014 interview]</ref> | ||
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We didn’t understand that truth comes in different forms depending on its application. It’s a tricky thing, there’s the truths that apply when you’re attempting to describe the transformations of the material world, and there’s the truths that apply when you’re trying to determine how it is you should act while you’re alive, and those obviously, those have to come into alignment but they’re not in alignment right now.<ref>[https://youtu.be/kL61yQgdWeM Russell Brand & Jordan Peterson - Kindness VS Power | Under The Skin #46]</ref> | We didn’t understand that truth comes in different forms depending on its application. It’s a tricky thing, there’s the truths that apply when you’re attempting to describe the transformations of the material world, and there’s the truths that apply when you’re trying to determine how it is you should act while you’re alive, and those obviously, those have to come into alignment but they’re not in alignment right now.<ref>[https://youtu.be/kL61yQgdWeM Russell Brand & Jordan Peterson - Kindness VS Power | Under The Skin #46]</ref> | ||
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Revision as of 16:24, 16 April 2020
Contents
Definition
Applications
Truth Serves Life is a Darwinian Idea
So Nietzsche says truth serves life. In some sense, that is a Darwinian idea. If it is true enough, so that if you act it out or hold it, that increases your chances of survival and reproduction over long spans of time. That's true. OK. We have no idea that if our detailed knowledge about material world is going to be the type of knowledge that allows us to survive and reproduce over a long period of time. It's not being tested from a Darwinian perspective at all. You might say, well, of course the materialist perspective is right, look what we built with it. We built hydrogen bombs, for example. But then you might object to that by saying well yeah! We built hydrogen bombs, but the only reason we could build them or were willing to was because we left things out of the equation. Well what things? Well, things like, is it really a good idea to build a hydrogen bombs? [1]
Is Your Speech True?
What does "true" mean? The answer to that would be twofold. What are you trying to do with your speech? There are two things you can do with it. One is you can manipulate reality so that it does what you want it to do. That's the sort of speech people use when they are trying to get what they want. The problem with that is that they can't actually know what they want. They just hypothesize what it is that they want based on some theory and then they try to manipulate the world so that they get that. But it's an unsatisfying venture, and often when they do get it, it's not good anyways, and it involves a kind of falsity of speech. The other way is to try to say what you mean, and think and perceive as clearly as you possibly can, always, and see what happens. The story that underlies Christianity and it is not only Christianity, it's Christianity that I am most familiar with, is that. The rule is: Live in accordance with the truth and see what happens. [2]
Different Forms of Truth
We didn’t understand that truth comes in different forms depending on its application. It’s a tricky thing, there’s the truths that apply when you’re attempting to describe the transformations of the material world, and there’s the truths that apply when you’re trying to determine how it is you should act while you’re alive, and those obviously, those have to come into alignment but they’re not in alignment right now.[3]
Importance of Spoken Truth
The Truth buttresses you most thoroughly against the vicissitudes of being. That's your salvation. The Truth - The Spoken Truth.[4]
“The truth that you already hold is not enough. You need to know more than you know.”[5]
"That’s another hallmark of truth, is that it snaps things together. People write to me all the time and say it’s as if things were coming together in my mind. It’s like the Platonic idea that all learning was remembering. You have a nature, and when you feel that nature articulated, it’s like the act of snapping the puzzle pIeces together". [Citation Needed]
Interpretations
The truth, your truth, is the antidote to suffering.
Lying is like a hydra. There are extra outcomes you don't anticipate, and creates more complexities, which means you have to lie again.
The exchange of truth is curative. The Western world is predicated on that idea.
Truth is psycho-physiological hygiene.
When you tell the truth, the outcome will be the best possible. Ally yourself with the truth.
Not saying what you think, is not being.
You are not speaking the truth unless you are prepared to stand up for it. These online anonymous forums are just a place for people to allow the fetid side of their nature to have free rein.
The fundamental definition of faith in the nature of being is when you decide that speaking the truth leads to the best possible outcome.
You can’t speak the truth, perhaps, nobody can, but you can decide not to tell lies and you can learn to do that very quickly. When you lie, you are failing to bear the burden of your existence, and you feel that in your body. And then watch what happens. You have to sacrifice your life to the logos in order to prove its existence.
There isn’t anything more interesting that you can do (than tell the truth). It removes the stultifying boredom of life.
You never know what will happen if you say something that is true. It’s a miracle. Miracles happen.
See Also
